There comes a point in every jukebox musical where the audience is encouraged to their feet, sometimes sooner rather than later, to dance, sway or sing along with the music. It always strikes me as not only as a deeply fraudulent way to guarantee a standing ovation, but a cheap device, too: the audience are effectively paying good money to entertain themselves.
And nowadays, with a majority of theatre tickets being sold online, too, audiences are often paying a big service charge for doing exactly the same thing: making the transaction themselves. Of course, there’s a back office cost of supporting the online infrastructure, but it’s surely nothing like the inflated transaction and handling fees that are added to the top of the ticket price. It is, literally, a licence to print money.
I love the add-on euphemistically titled “convenience fee” that is sometimes added when you buy tickets online in the US, and the “delivery charge” for printing out your own tickets at home: here, you’re being charged for the automatically generated PDF file, then you spend your own money on printer ink to actually print them. It always reminds me of the great Bette Midler line about being asked for payment to use a Parisian toilet: “But I did it all myself!”
The ticketing companies, by contrast, do nothing themselves: they don’t make the shows, pay the actors or theatre staff, or support the upkeep of the venues. They merely act as intermediaries between the public and the producers. And neither the public nor the producers have any say at all in which ticketing companies are being used to deliver that service. It’s a like-it-or-lump-it world.
And of course, with some events — where demand is always going to exceed supply — those ticket agencies not only control access in the first place, but can also manage the ongoing, behind-the-scenes traffic in ‘secondary ticketing’. Fans of the Rolling Stones have been reported this week to have had their fury ignited by the fact that, after tickets sold out for their return gigs at the O2 Arena next month within seven minutes, they were being steered by Ticketmaster instead to their own secondary ticketing site Get Me In! According to a story in Monday’s Evening Standard,
Two tickets in the A2 block – which is right in front of the stage – were being sold for £15,400 each. Their face value is thought to be just £406.
As Harvey Goldsmith, who has produced previous Rolling Stones tours, tweeted:
Why is it on rolling stones you can only get tickets through Get Me In. Nothing less than £660- 15400??
— Harvey Goldsmith (@HarvGoldsmith) October 19, 2012
Get Me In! was at pains to point out that they are only the intermediary and don’t set the price, telling the Daily Mail:
When a seller sets a price, like £15,000, that is just a listing and there is no guarantee that the ticket will sell at that price.
But the fact of the matter is that they are facilitating access to such outrageous demands, and there are people who may pay it. Meanwhile, true fans are being sidelined by profiteers. And however much Get Me In! protests that they don’t set the rates, they’re enablers, at least, to the iniquitous (and ubiquitous) practice.
The ticketing business is in urgent need of being cleaned up, instead of cleaning up on the fans. Just the other day the Independent reported that a new rival to Ticketmaster plans to “sweep away hidden charges”.
AEG, the operators of the O2, are set to launch their own ticketing platform, and Dean DeWulf, its European vice-president, has commented,
We will not charge fans for doing us a favour and printing out their own tickets with their own ink.
That’s a start, for sure; but there’s a lot further to go. It’s high time that ticketing services are brought into line, rather than hidden online with multiple charges being applied that the producer of the show never sees. Ticketing is, after all, the most basic level of service that venues have to supply, given that the show is entirely dependent on its efficiency and actually being able to make its sales through. It’s of premium importance; but that doesn’t mean it should be delivered at a premium price.

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Still fuming at having to pay £4 to print my own theatre tickets via Ticketmaster recentlyReport comment
Something to add is that Getmein is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Ticketmaster, and that it’s curious how tickets for gigs unavailable within an hour of going on sale on Ticketmaster amazingly ARE available at up to 10x inflated prices immediately on Getmein.
BBC’s Watchdog programme investigated this recently but fell just short of directly accusing Ticketmaster of re-selling its own ticket stock via the marked-up site.Report comment
There is the basis of a simple answer to this problem and it is surprising that HMRC have not twigged yet. It could be that having had four CEOs in as many years it has lost all focus.
HMRC should request changes the VAT rules that will enable claims for unpaid VAT output tax to be assessed on all ticket reselling companies against the value of all tickets sold through their sites above the original face value of the tickets sold.
The resellers will claim that they are merely agents acting on behalf of third parties. HMRC can then – as part of the rule-changes and the new laws in force – request full contact details of the sellers (name, address, e-mail, bank account etc)who are using the site to re-sell tickets at an inflated price and then pursue the individuals/companies involved for the tax on the difference in the ticket selling prices on the basis that the ticket seller is ‘carrying on a trade’ and is not fully declaring and accounting for all trading profits arising.
The onus will be on the seller to prove this and this ‘trading’ is merely a one-off transaction but until that happens HMRC should be able levy the full value of VAT outputs on the reselling company which is the conduit for the re-sales.
Deficit reduction guaranteed.Report comment
It is not only the ‘big boys’ and sell out concerts which leave you feeling ripped off. I am always astonished and dismayed at the charges levied by the subsidised theatre sector for booking online. (You can normally avoid these by calling the box office directly and speak to a person!) Contrast the treatment of the consumer when buying tickets with the rights of the consumer in other areas. It is time the ticket buying public protested about this as loudly as we do about utility bills and charges added by airlines. See also my blog from a few weeks ago. http://christinehamiltonconsulting.com/2012/09/ba-or-ryanair/Report comment
Astounded by the fact that Ticketmaster charged a £31.50 booking fee PER TICKET for the Rolling Stones, surely some sort of record?Report comment
It rather smacks of the budget airline where the price of the flight itself itself, but by the time you add in charges for luggage, using the toilet (!!!), checkin etc etc etc then the “budget” doesn’t seem that budget! Theatres, producers etc wanna be careful. The public are being squeezed at every turn in all areas of their lives. It won’t take much to turn them off theatre.
The other thing I don’t like is the sometimes seen restoration levy. All very well (and of course i want to contribute to the future of our glorious theatres) but I see no evidence of the money being spent. In one particular case, a theatre I go to charges this levy but the loos are stinking, the carpets are filthy etc etc…..Report comment
We will rock you and its £8.50 per ticket fee plus £4.25 to collect or print your own tickets has to be the worst in the westend. Out of towners who cant get to the box office get a really bad deal there.
I can sometimes understand the massive fees when buying through a different agency to the one the theatre uses but when its the official one adding £12.75 to a ticket its obscene.Report comment
Ticketmaster is fraudulent however you look at it.It has “re-directed” online enquiries for sold out events directly to “get me in” and it is not themselves being kind to supposedly offer to “resell” tickets at extortionate rates because they would only handle their own allocation.Thy do not even claim to be associated with each other which is another con.They need to be exposed and promoters should not give them allocations.Report comment
Although it’s frustrating as a regular theatre-goer to have to pay these extra charges I’m glad I have my ATG membership. For £30 a year I don’t pay any booking fees. I can also get discounts on tickets for some performances.
I can’t remember when I last booked through Ticket Master as I don’t like lining their pockets with all their additional costs.
What I really don’t like is when companies say that a £1 restoration levy is included in the ticket price. How many theatres need major restoration? So what’s happening to this restoration levy if it’s not being used to restore the theatres?Report comment
I’m the box office manager of an off-West End venue where we use Adelphi Tickets. They are an absolute pleasure to work with and have NO BOOKING FEES – not even credit card charges or postage nonsense.
Seems like a small, dedicated team which has a genuine interest in the arts. Quick to take on our feedback and so helpful with marketing – cant recommend Adelphi Tickets enough.Report comment
It is important to understand that there is a cost for supplying the service, the decision promoters and venues need to make is if this should be built into the ticket price or added on top.
Promoting venues who have control over ticket prices should be able to build fees into their face value pretty easily, however a venue with promoters hiring often do not have this control and so to ensure their costs are met find it necessary to charge a fee.
In the case of agents, their sole income comes from their fees and delivery charges – usually the entire face value will go to the promoter.
I’m in no way defending inflated fees and delivery charges, but just saying that the cost has to fall somewhere. In my experience buying direct from the venue usually incurs the lowest fee as they are purely covering costs and not making any mark-up on it.
Steve Barks: I thought Adelphi charged 10% – do you guys absorb this?Report comment
It’s small change in comparison to some of the examples being made here, but when buying tickets through ATG earlier in the year I was given the option of receiving them in the post, or collecting from Box Office. The charge for posting them was £4. The charge for collecting them from the Box Office was also £4. How does that work??Report comment
Lets see. The Rolling Stones are charging $1800 per ticket for a general admission ticket with a dinner included. Who’s ripping off who. Somebody needs to do somethithing about it!!!Report comment